I've been thinking about this and we are a nation that was founded by outcasts from another society who came over to a continent that did not even belong to them, killed the natives, raped their women and then founded a nation "under God." And when we finally did give the Native Americans some of their land back, we had stripped it of all of its natural resources.

However, another side of me says, "Screw it, the indians hadn't even invented the wheel when we conquered them."

this is what's really screwy about the whole idea of countries anyway. i mean, those men were bleeding horrible, it was basically an act of genocide. and yet i'm associated with them, simply because i was born here...

this is also a nation that claims to be a melting pot, but needs terms like "Native American" and "Irish-American" and "Japanese-American" and "African American" and "Italian-American" to keep everyone straight.
why differentiate? what's the point? i have so many cultures inside of me that defintion would be a joke. cherokee, scottish, german, dutch, english...
if we're going to identify ourselves through the country we live in, can we just skip the de facto mental segregation and call ourselves americans? i mean, geez.

do other countries do this? i've never heard of anyone being referred to as an Italian-Canadian, an African-New Zealander..

on the other hand, there is the whole French-Canadian deal.

hm.

Hey who needs the wheel when you got hovercrafts eh man?. ......This is really good weed by the way!

No clue as to why you have been thinking about this. What's up? I mean I am interested in what got you going on this particular issue.

I have thought about this stuff myself and it gets deep really fast (for me). And so I wanted to give you a reply, but I also wanted to understand where you are coming from. It's a little peculiar to me to see this coming "out of the blue" like this. I am sure it's not out of the blue from your view point though.

So if you are interested in sharing, I'm all ears. What got you going on this topic?

Here's my take on the whole deal...in a nutshell.

1st off, I have some Cherokee blood in me (not much but my grandpa got indian money from the gov't. So I can at least say I have an inherent connection to this topic.)

Now, I'm not saying you don't have compelling reasons for your take on the subject, but there's a another "spin" on this whole thing.

Check it out.

You said:
"a nation that was founded by outcasts from another society "

If you're spin doctoring this you could say that...or this... if you're putting a more positive spin on it:

"a nation that was founded by strong spirtited people who were looking for a place to experince thier God Given Human Rights, free from the tryanny they lived with everyday of thier lives."

And this part ...

"who came over to a continent that did not even belong to them..."

You can put that spin on it sure, but ...
Hello, McFly...The continent didn't belong to the American Indians until they came from somewhere else and "killed the natives, raped their women and then founded their nation...

You're not looking at the bigger picture.

Why? I don't know. It seems to me to be an attack on the basic foundation of our great United States of America. Are you from out of town? Are from out of state? Are from out of country?

Just curious. I mean to take a shot at the very foundation of our country on the spin that "we screwed the indians" seems to me to be a lame shot, but a shot indeed about the very foundation of our country.

How countries and nations evolve has to do with human nature. No it's not pretty, but that's what all nations have come from...every nation has had it's "before" and the "before's" were overrun by the "Afters," and the "Afters" became the city-state or nation, that eventually gets "overrun" or absorbed into yet another State or Nation Entity.

So what's the deal? What are you upset about? And more to the point..where are you coming from?

Are you an American Indian, upset with the way things are? Or are you from Iraq trying to screwball the forum and our National Spirit, or what?

Just curious.

Lucky

PS. If necessary, be as huffy and puffy and indignant as you deem fit. Cause if I'm wrong about you, you deserve your come-back, and well, you're talking about serious issues here...we don't always talk about openly, but when and if people take shots at our country, (een if well meaning) you are liable to get it in the teeth, by well meaning people, you may not usually speak up about how they feel.

And my final statement has to do with your title "What if we are really wrong?"

Who do you mean EXACTLY by "We" and are you one of the "We" you refer to?

And since everyone is right about some things and wrong about others...what if "We" are really right about the matters of state and nationism that really matter?

What if that?


Sincerely,
Lucky... I'm an American

What is so special about the wheel?